Comments on The Breda Fallacy: jaded

Chapter 40 of The Feynman Lectures on Physics
2010-02-17T17:48:34.498-05:00
Chapter 40 of The Feynman Lectures on Physics is called "The flow of dry water."

As for the Next Crisis, I think Peak Phosphorus is the most likely source of hysteria.

Acid Rain is sooo 1980's. I'm still waitin...

2010-02-12T20:39:22.188-05:00
Acid Rain is sooo 1980's. I'm still waiting for that New Ice Age that the doomsayers back in the '70s were saying would doom us all.

Oh, wait just a minute there...

These days, Breda, a Global Dirt Shortage, and Ant...

2010-02-12T13:37:21.875-05:00
These days, Breda, a Global Dirt Shortage, and Anthropogenic Plate Tectonics are competing for position as the new pseudo science to replace Global Warming.

And you found them in the Fantasy/Science Fiction ...

2010-02-12T12:43:29.867-05:00
And you found them in the Fantasy/Science Fiction section?

"If they can't blame the United States an...

2010-02-12T10:53:55.045-05:00
"If they can't blame the United States and Europe they don't bother reporting it."

It's only pollution-pollution when Capitalists cause it. Kinda like only groundlings can really "rape-rape".

Acid rain is still a major problem. Winds carry c...

2010-02-12T09:23:15.119-05:00
Acid rain is still a major problem. Winds carry coal burning byproducts from China and North Korea and dump toxic rainfall in Japan and South Korea as well as the Canadian and American west coast from Alaska to the Baja California pennisula. In some places entire forests show acid rain damage to trees in areas stretching for hundreds of miles around.

It hasn't gone away at all, but for some reason the media and the modern scientific community don't report anything related to problems resulting from unmitigated Chinese industrialization. If they can't blame the United States and Europe they don't bother reporting it.

LabRat, Too bad James P. Hogan went all nutty and...

2010-02-12T09:03:01.904-05:00
LabRat,

Too bad James P. Hogan went all nutty and Velikovskian later, since in some people's eyes that automatically scribbles a hand-teleprompter on all his earlier stuff, but he did an interesting piece on the ozone hole in Omni back in the early '90s. The highlights are available online.

Both acid rain and the hole in the ozone layer wer...

2010-02-12T02:04:18.194-05:00
Both acid rain and the hole in the ozone layer were genuine threats that were fixed by some relatively trivial shifts in industrial practices. The hole is still there, it's just shrinking now because we don't truly need and never truly did need the propellants that caused it in the first place. Likewise, acid rain was caused by an excess of a gas it's not really necessary to have as a byproduct of coal burning. I imagine China still has issues with it.

The lack of awareness of these victories is one of many complete failures I lay at the feet of the "green" movement, which is currently worshipping Chicken Little.

You're not suggesting buffo...scientists would...

2010-02-11T18:39:55.348-05:00
You're not suggesting buffo...scientists would spin their findings to whatever is advantageous to their getting grant money, are you?

The horror.

Jim

Um... "Quotes" were supposed to be aourn...

2010-02-11T17:14:58.829-05:00
Um... "Quotes" were supposed to be aournd "Cheek". Way to blow a joke Dante. *sigh*

JACKPOT! W/V Sterrain: What they did to make acid rain safe.

You fell for that "Earth is round" hoax ...

2010-02-11T17:10:15.948-05:00
You fell for that "Earth is round" hoax too? Sheep.

I seem to have gotten my tongue caught in my cheek. Can I get some help here?

W/V: Butatize? No comment.

Acid rain was a problem in the Northeast. If you ...

2010-02-11T16:47:35.320-05:00
Acid rain was a problem in the Northeast. If you were growing hay, it took spreading about two tons of lime per acre of grassland every few years to counteract the effects of acid rain, if you wanted to grow good-quality hay for critter feed. The installation of scrubbers on the coal-fired plants out your way helped a lot.

Damn....Living in Florida all these years made me ...

2010-02-11T15:58:36.879-05:00
Damn....Living in Florida all these years made me think the world was flat, but lots of wet water with a salt chaser.

See Ya

Acid rain was a big problem in Germany, I remember...

2010-02-11T15:54:01.805-05:00
Acid rain was a big problem in Germany, I remember. A lot of the trees in the Black Forest were killed by it. Dunno what it's like there now. Oh, and we had Chernobyl fall-out, too! Fun times. ;)

W/V motive...what's the motive for the faking of Global Warming? Money and power, the big two.

Oh, yeah - I remember acid rain now. By the time I...

2010-02-11T15:32:04.916-05:00
Oh, yeah - I remember acid rain now. By the time I became old enough to rent a car in my own name, we were supposed to live in an environment where nobody could go outside anytime it rained, ever, because it would melt our faces off our skulls...or something. I dunno.

The sun still comes up in the east, too. But I exp...

2010-02-11T15:30:09.627-05:00
The sun still comes up in the east, too. But I expect - any day now - a grant to study what would happen if it comes up in the west.

Here's a hint: shadows would face the wrong way.

There is some debate in the scientific community a...

2010-02-11T14:48:13.774-05:00
There is some debate in the scientific community as to how wet water actually is.

As a geographer, I can assure you the Earth is sti...

2010-02-11T14:38:33.349-05:00
As a geographer, I can assure you the Earth is still a roughly round shaped object.

Acid rain was supposed to kill off all the Amphibi...

2010-02-11T13:54:06.245-05:00
Acid rain was supposed to kill off all the Amphibians and sterilize ponds too.

I remember hearing a LOT of tree-frogs last summer...maybe they're acid resistant SUPER-FROGS!

Kinda like BATTLETOADS!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battletoads

Hey, don't forget about the hole in the ozone ...

2010-02-11T13:32:43.353-05:00
Hey, don't forget about the hole in the ozone layer. That was supposed to fry us all in our sleep, remember?

As I see it? If it describes what is, it is scien...

2010-02-11T13:28:24.686-05:00
As I see it?

If it describes what is, it is science.

If it describes how someone wants it to be, it's "Science!©"

The two can be most easily distinguished by the latter's rich, luxurious grant plumage.

Comments on The Breda Fallacy: jaded

Chapter 40 of The Feynman Lectures on Physics 2010-02-17T17:48:34.498-05:00 Chapter 40 of The Feynman Lectures on Physics is called "The flow of dry water."As for the Next Crisis, I think Peak Phosphorus is the most likely source of hysteria.

Acid Rain is sooo 1980's. I'm still waitin...

These days, Breda, a Global Dirt Shortage, and Ant...

And you found them in the Fantasy/Science Fiction ...

"If they can't blame the United States an...

Acid rain is still a major problem. Winds carry c...

LabRat, Too bad James P. Hogan went all nutty and...

Both acid rain and the hole in the ozone layer wer...

You're not suggesting buffo...scientists would...

Um... "Quotes" were supposed to be aourn...

You fell for that "Earth is round" hoax ...

Acid rain was a problem in the Northeast. If you ...

Damn....Living in Florida all these years made me ...

Acid rain was a big problem in Germany, I remember...

Oh, yeah - I remember acid rain now. By the time I...

The sun still comes up in the east, too. But I exp...

There is some debate in the scientific community a...

As a geographer, I can assure you the Earth is sti...

Acid rain was supposed to kill off all the Amphibi...

Hey, don't forget about the hole in the ozone ...

As I see it? If it describes what is, it is scien...

Chapter 40 of The Feynman Lectures on Physics
2010-02-17T17:48:34.498-05:00
Chapter 40 of The Feynman Lectures on Physics is called "The flow of dry water."

As for the Next Crisis, I think Peak Phosphorus is the most likely source of hysteria.